A Chat Around The Campfire With My Husband

I haven’t been going through midlife alone. Right next to me is my husband Dale who is only a couple weeks older than me. This year we’re celebrating our 30th anniversary and just like how we were pretty much kids when we first met, we’re navigating this latest chapter in our life together. We’re looking back at the lessons we’ve learned and making plans and working out the directions that we want to take for our future.

We’ve traveled many times as just a couple but recently we did something that we always did with our kids. Camping. Even though our kids are all out on their own, some things, like the old family tent still remain. The timing felt right to unplug from all our devices, get down to basics and sleep close to the ground. And so we took off.


Family, traveling, and talking about life has been a constant for Dale and I. In fact, we’ve worked together on these exact subjects, taking our young family on camping adventure and writing about them for The Los Angeles Times and Australian Associated Press. You can get an idea of what we did in some old archived articles here.

Dale and I are going to be doing a podcast together and this episode is one of our experiments. We really just shoot the breeze on what this camping trip was like and some of the things we’re up to – including our new interest in a cross between Paleo and Vegan eating. It’s early days but we just try to avoid dairy, refined sugar and gluten/wheat. We’re wrapping our head around it and the bottom line is we’re actually having fun.

Honestly, just about any packaged or processed food that you secretly like, say a candy bar, can be made with real ingredients and even be healthy. For example, here’s a recipe for Reese Peanut Butter Cups that can be tweaked from Vegan to Paleo.


Chocolate base and top

Raw Cacao Powder

Maple Syrup

Coconut Oil

Peanut Butter Fillingย 

Peanut Butter or use Sunflower Butter (if you’re a stickler for paleo)

Maple Syrup

Himalaya Sea Salt

Instructions: Mix the chocolate base ingredients to a sauce consistency and spoon half into a cupcake liner, leaving the remaining for the topping. Stick in fridge to harden. Mix the peanut butter filling, can be done by hand no problem. When the chocolate bottoms are hard, spoon the peanut butter filling on top, spreading it so it’s even. Top with the remaining top and place in fridge to harden. I know I haven’t given the amounts but if you cook you can probably guess how much you need right? In any case, this is pretty insane tasting as well as exciting to eat because it has to be better for you than the original thing!



What I LOVE about the idea of doing another podcast with Dale is that we can also get a man’s POV on midlife and beyond. Maybe it’s something that the men in your life might enjoy as well and give us all the chance to get this conversation going about making life great, from this point on.

So on that note, I’d love your feedback on the idea of Dale and I doing a collar. Let us know what you think!



5 thoughts on “A Chat Around The Campfire With My Husband

  1. Iยดm only 4 mins in to listening and i love you guys together already! Dale has a gorgeous accent and the honesty shines through.
    Its hilarious how you come across as so smart when you are on your own but with Dale he sounds the one in control and you are playing the passive role. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Clever.
    I mentioned before that we did a week off grid and it was so special…the boys read, climbed and climbed some more. Monopoly and playing cards were the evenings family entertainment if we were not out dining.
    I think you guys could rap about any topic and it would be interesting and Congratulations! on nearly 30 years of consciously coupling ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Tu amiga con las canas, K.x

    • Hey Kay

      Yay. Stoked you enjoyed it and ahhhh, don’t let Dale’s great accent fool you, I’m way smarter – just kidding ๐Ÿ˜‰ . We have some fun ones planned so I can’t wait for you to listen. Were thinking of doing a review of 50 Shades of Grey lol…

      Do you think you’ll do another “off the grid” holiday with your family anytime soon?

      Hugs from Sydney xx


  2. G’day Sue & Dale,
    This was hilarious. Loved it, but it died at 32 mins.
    Thinking of your mom, do you know about Music for Memory?
    My tip is spiced rum in your coffee.

    • Yo Mick!

      Ahh, thanks for listening. We have the funnest conversations so it will be cool to share them with you. I listened to the end and it worked for me so hmmmmm. Maybe you meant that it ended kind of abrupt – which it did! Things to work on for next time ๐Ÿ˜‰

      I’ve seen bits and pieces with Music for Memory and just did a quick google to check it out further – thanks for mentioning. I’m gonna share it with Dale to see if there is some next level stuff we can do with Leonie. One thing that her husband Kel does pretty much each night is pops an Andre Rieu DVD on and omg, that totally takes her to another place. The impact is remarkable (although we suspect Andre might have something to do with it ๐Ÿ˜‰ . There is some kind of connection with Alzheimers and life of that person in their 30’s so music from that time, memories of that era, etc seem to be a touchstone.

      Spiced rum in coffee eh? Dale will LOVE that. Rum is his preferred drop!


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